George Christensen MP

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Monday, 13 February 2012

 

The sentiments behind the push to exempt churches from having to perform same sex marriages, if they are legalised, may be welcomed by some but it is clear from the global experience that any such sentiments, legislated, codified or otherwise, will not withstand the ongoing march of Christophobia that is occurring throughout the West.

Article 18 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights is supposed to codify religious liberty.

It states:

Everyone shall have the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion(including the) freedom… in publicto manifest his religion or belief in worship, observance, practice and teaching and

No one shall be subject to coercion which would impair his freedom...

And yet in Great Britain the situation is that intolerable for Christians that in recent years, the Archbishop of York of the Church of England, the Rt Rev John Sentamu was moved to say that there are:

Those whoargue that they operate in pursuit of policies based on the twin aims of 'diversity and equality'.

Yet 'diversity' means every colour and creed except Christianityand 'equality' excludes anyone with a Christian belief in God.

And it is no wonder when we see recent headlines such as: “Tory MP calls for churches to be banned from holding marriages if they refuse gay couples” from gay media outlet PinkNews, September 2, 2011.

A Conservative MP, in August last year, lobbied British Prime Minister David Cameron to compel churches to register civil partnerships, pointing to a precedent where Catholic adoption agencies were compelled to provide adoption services for same-sex couples.

In Canada, the Saskatchewan Court of Appeal declared “unconstitutional” a proposed legislative amendment allowing Saskatchewan’s marriage commissioners to refuse to perform same-sex ‘marriages’ on religious grounds.

In the US, just last week, a New Jersey judge ruled against a Christian retreat house that refused to allow a same-sex civil union ceremony to be conducted on its premises, saying the Constitution allows ‘some intrusion into religious freedom...”

Outside of the marriage issue, we’ve seen Christian pastors locked up for speaking on the Bible’s teaching on homosexuality.

In Sweden, Pastor Ake Green was sentenced to a month in prison for having offended homosexuals in a sermon.

In Ontario, Canada, the Liberal State government has attacked the Catholic church for failing to allow for clubs for homosexual students in its schools. The courts are now ruling against the church and ordering they provide them.

And it may be news to the secularists but church buildings are not where Christians check-in and check-out the practice of their beliefs.

Christianity is a lived experience and Christians are called to remain true to their faith in all aspects of their lives.

But, despite the Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, nation-states throughout the West have effectively outlawed public observance of Christian belief.

In November last year, Dutch MPs voted to prevent Christian civil servants refusing to conduct gay marriages.

In 2004, Mitt Romney, then Governor of Massachusetts, ordered Justices of the Peace to perform homosexual marriages when requested or to be fired.

Again in November last year, it was reported that a Christian baker in Iowa who politely declined to provide a wedding cake for two lesbians will now have legal action commenced against her.

Last week, the British Court of Appeals ruled that a Christian couple who own a bed and breakfast in Cornwall and who refused to allow a gay couple to share a bed in their establishment, must pay $5,700 in damages to the gay couple.

Another Christian, a café owner in England, in September last year, was warned by police to stop showing DVDs of the New Testament in his café after a customer complained about its passage against homosexuality.

This Christophobia, this systemic denial of Christians to follow their conscience, is happening all around the world and it will too occur here in Australia unless the law remains steadfast on the issue of marriage.

It has already begun to some extent. The Australia Education Union in its policy paper on GLBTI people states that they “will develop strategies to counter homophobia at an institution level” including in “religious institutions” which they say “are to be condemned for their discriminative attitudes and approaches”. Presumably, these strategies will take place in classrooms and we will have the children of Christians, Christian children, being told that their church is to be condemned.

At the government level, the Attorney General has released a discussion paper on proposed federal anti-discrimination changes. That paper suggests some exemptions be offered to religious organisations, except, I note, from those connected with “sexual orientation”.

I note Archbishop Barry Hickey of the Roman Catholic Church has already flagged his Perth archdiocese will simply surrender its marriage license if they’re compelled to perform same sex marriages. Maybe this is the end result that the Christophobes are pushing for?

Because despite cleverly concocted exemptions that seek to dull the Christian voters’ concerns over proposed same sex marriage laws, if we redefine marriage nothing will stop the advance of the Christophobes, a march that, in Australia, is done to the beat of the Greens’ and now Labor’s drum.

Comments

Tara
# Tara
Wednesday, 15 February 2012 1:24 AM
Noone's personal beliefs should come into play when it comes to matters of civil rights. The Churches war on the rights of women and gays needs to end, they are losing all credibility as true christians.
Steve Davis
# Steve Davis
Wednesday, 15 February 2012 1:10 PM
To Tara, it is not a matter of personal beliefs, it is what is right for society as a whole, true Christians will not compromise on this issue, it is the nominal Christians and the people who are Christian in name only that are accepting this. The institution of marriage has been one of the founding bedrocks of any civilised society and it must not be watered down. For the record, true Christians do not hate homosexuals, they see them as individuals that Jesus loves and died for but that does not justify accepting behaviour that the Bible tells us is wrong.Those of us who stand for nothing will fall for anything! Finally, there is no war from the church on women's rights and gays, if you truly understood the Christian faith you would not make these inaccurate comments!
Russell Guy
# Russell Guy
Wednesday, 15 February 2012 7:53 PM
Good on you, George. We need some balance and reasoned debate in this age of moral relativism. Ultimately, Truth needs no apologist. The rage against it, drags on like ships before a gale, but I know where I'd rather be when all Hell breaks loose. Christ is the Rock which Christophobes disdain. Jesus had mercy for them, even when they spat at him on the Cross. It's something everyone will have to come to terms with one day, when every knee will bow, every tongue confess that He controls the wind. Better to reason now while you can.
Tara
# Tara
Sunday, 19 February 2012 6:18 PM
#Steve They compromised on the issues of Divorce, Child marriage, Slavery, Family planning (Catholic church still has a big problem with that one) and countless other things so why not this one. I know that true Christians don't hate anyone.
Steve Davis
# Steve Davis
Monday, 20 February 2012 11:46 AM
Thanks Tara, the Church is guilty of many things in relation to how it sometimes handles things. You mention slavery, the key person in the abolition of slavery was William Wilberforce, an evangelical Christian so any implication of a compromise here is not accurate. Your argument about the Church compromising on many things is not a justification for them to keep compromising on everything else, the consequence of them doing that is that the Church will become just like the world and God calls his Church to be a light in the world, in a lot of cases this will involve being at odds with the world. As I stated in my first post, unfortunately the Church these days is filled with a lot of people who are Christian in name only and this is probably where you get your observation from which is fair enough. Your comment "Noone's personal beliefs should come into play when it comes to matters of civil rights" is a moot point as a person's personal beliefs are almost always the foundation for how he/she lives their life and views things. You cannot separate a person's views from their daily existence and a true Christian will definitely be considerate to civil rights but in a democratic society, what is best for the overall majority must always prevail with the responsibility of the majority to look after the minority, however this does not mean giving in to every minority group every time they stamp their feet. Finally, make no mistake Tara, do not be deceived into thinking that society will be a better place without Christianity, in fact it will be down right horrible!
Tara
# Tara
Monday, 20 February 2012 1:31 PM
I think they will continue to compromise on issues because beliefs differ so much from denomination to denomination and even the people within those can't agree on what is the right thing in a evolving society.
Tara
# Tara
Monday, 20 February 2012 3:52 PM
The church debated for years on slavery, deciding that it was okay as long as the slaves were treated well (even Popes kept slaves) then later deciding that it was not okay at all. I think the biggest problem I have with the church as a whole is how they believe that they know what God would think or what he would do.They look to the bible for answers and all you get are things that could be swayed in any direction that the reader wants them to go. The bible contradicts itself all the time. I can't wrap my mind around it.

I understand that this debate will continue for many more years. I do believe that Christians have done many great things for people and we need that in society but they have also spread much hate and it's a real shame.
Steve Davis
# Steve Davis
Monday, 20 February 2012 7:09 PM
Tara, I sympathise with you when you give the example of denominations, this does tend to confuse a lot of people both inside and outside the church but the real truth of the matter is that denominations are just religious window dressing, I myself cannot understand why they exist either, but having said that, when it comes to grass roots Biblical principles, you will find that this is where all true Christians will unite regardless of the denomination. True Christians will disagree about lots of things but when it comes to the foundation of God's word and his salvation through his son Jesus, you will get no difference of opinion there. As for Christians saying they know what God would think or what He would do, this once again is a misconception by those outside the Church. Christians believe that the Bible is the Holy Spirit breathed word of God and as such when you think a Christian is saying they know what God would do, they are simply saying that the word of God says such and such, it is all there in plain English so anyone can read it. As for the words of the Bible being swayed in any direction that the reader wants them to go, this is probably true of people who are not believers because I can tell you now Tara, no true Christian would twist the scriptures to say something they are not meant to convey. The Bible warns us about doing this so those who do it will answer for it in due course. Finally please give me an example of the so called hate that Christians have spread!
Theo
# Theo
Monday, 16 April 2012 10:02 AM
"Same sex 'Marriage'"?? What? Man and woman were created (not evolved from some microbe or ape. [maybe apes came from delinquent humans, which is much easier to believe]. As such, it all started with a man/woman relationship. In view of anatomy, it is all too easy to observe and conclude that man and woman are made for, and to accommodate, each other. To wit, man is the 'initiator' and woman the 'receiver'. When this is violated all sort of problems arise, mental, emotional, spiritual and physical. Ponder the ramifications. And, there are 'consequences' for violating God's ordained laws for good society. "Marriage" is just that, marriage - man&woman, the parents of a well-balanced home where children are naturally born and with a father and mother as role models. Marriage is here to stay! But, for those who insist on perverting the Creator's good plan for us and our/society's well-being, well, why not just have your 'De-facto Relationship', which is all it is! And, do not EVER bring children into such an unbalanced situation, for their sake and society's sake. As for 'churches' and their stance on 'same-sex-relationships': well, the Bible, our proven Handbook for good life, is black+white clear on this issue - it is "an abomination" and a notable, forecast symptom of the end-times we now live in. Any 'church' or 'pastor' who subscribes to these "abominations" is guilty along with the perpetrators, and will have to ultimately account for this and accept the judgment due to them and forfeit their salvation. It's just not worth it. Better to do things the Creator's Way and not rebel any further with Him, don't you all think?

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